Teaching and Learning

More Teaching, Less Grading

After teaching the basic public speaking course at colleges for over 30 years, and being frustrated with the level of speeches, level of writing, no-shows and drops, I realized I had to radically change the way I was teaching.  Because, you know, if they aren’t learning, I’m not teaching.

My old way of teaching was standard:  3 main speeches, each with a detailed evaluation sheet that had points assigned for every element I could think of.  Fifty points for 10 different delivery aspects, 50 for the outline and so on.  I also had mini-speeches, mini-assignments, all intended to keep the students moving toward completing the semester by accumulating points every week, each assignment building on the previous ones.

But here was one of the main problems.  If a student stumbled on an assignment early on, or missed mini-assignments, it was very difficult for them to get their footing again, and the failures accumulated, instead of the points.  So I often had a fairly bifurcated class–those who kept up and moved smoothly toward a B or an A, and those who couldn’t make up for early problems and dropped or earned a D or worse.

Plus I was getting incredibly frustrated.  It didn’t matter how much I emphasized to them that they had to just plug along every day, every week and they’d do fine.  Many didn’t or couldn’t and I ended up feeling like I was punishing instead of teaching.  I also came to see my detailed point system as arbitrary and tyrannical.  One student gets three points for eye contact and another gets four. Really?  The activity of circling those numbers was becoming more ludicrous every semester.

I spent the summer ruminating then figuring out how to actually TEACH public speaking so the students would stay and learn. The result is a new, liberating grading system.

Yes. Liberating.  For me and my students.  Here are two of the most important elements of my new system: how they earn their semester grade and how they earn credit for a speech.

First, they earn their semester grade by deciding how many assignments they will complete at the basic level.  Completing five assignments at a basic level earns them an A, four a B, three a C and so forth.  There are two required traditional face-to-face in-class speeches that are standard across the department’s 180 sections.  Nothing new or different here–one is informative and the second is persuasive. But every assignment is credit/no credit.

Then I offer them six assignments from which they can choose one, two or three (depending on the grade they want), some of which can be completed in the public realm of the web, some in other face-to-face situations or in our classroom.  One important option (at least I think–we’ll see what happens with it) is an assignment that they make up (with my approval of course) that is directly helpful to them and includes some kind of important communication activity.  I had in mind helping them practice for a toast or a job interview but I don’t know what they’ll come up with. I’ll talk more about these optional assignments in upcoming blogs and you can see more explanation in the syllabus.

Here is the other liberating element–the “grade” sheet.  No more points attached to every single thing they are supposed to do.  While I thought that was giving them specific instructions on how to get a good grade, it was also giving them a whole lot of ways they could fail.  Instead, I am giving them for the first speech eight things they must do in order to get credit for that speech.  I’m not giving them points according to how well they do each element, but I WILL GIVE THEM FEEDBACK.  So if they give me a typed outline but the grammar is poor, I will mark their outline to teach them, but not penalize them for poor writing.

The eight elements are:


  1. Typed
  2. Written in full sentences
  3. Written in outline format
  4. Have three sources, cited in the body and the bibliography
  5. Handed in prior to presenting the speech


  1. Must be 3-5 minutes
  2. Presented extemporaneously
  3. Must speak so we can hear and understand the presentation

That’s it.  It seems they believe they can do this and I will be thrilled if they do all of the above.  So each assignment is basically credit/no credit and they have to perform to a basic standard to get the credit.  No extensive and detailed grading sheets that intimidate them and oppress me.

We’ll see how this goes in a couple weeks.

This blog post first appeared in Hollis’s blog, Community College Public Speaking.


14 Responses to More Teaching, Less Grading

  1. Judy Noble October 22, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

    Hollis –
    Reading your post I felt as if I could have written it myself! I’m looking forward to hearing about the results of your new approach for Speech 100.

  2. Eliza October 22, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

    This is a very useful article. Kudos to Hollis for being open to trying something new. My favorite part is including an activity that directly relates to the student. What college student wouldn’t want an interview practice with their public speaking professor?

    • Hollis Glaser October 22, 2018 at 1:47 pm #

      Yeah, we did a role-play with the student who is going to ask her boss for a raise. The students had lots of good coaching tips for her and she’s going to do the deed this semester so she can report back.

    • Hollis Glaser October 24, 2018 at 8:33 pm #

      Thanks, Eliza. Even better: we coached a student in asking for a raise from her boss and she did it and got it! Come on! She is totally getting her money’s worth!

  3. Hollis Glaser October 22, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

    Thanks, Judy! Good to hear from you!

  4. Monica October 22, 2018 at 1:36 pm #


    This sounds very interesting! I read an article not too long ago that proposed a similar approach, so I’m looking forward to hearing how this unfolds in your classes. I can appreciate your desire to change your grading system, as I have been working on revising my own. Thanks for the inspiration!

  5. Precious Sellars-Mulhern October 22, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

    That was insightful, Hollis. Thanks for sharing. How are your students responding to this approach? Improved attendance? Improved participation? Improved quality of speeches?

    • Hollis Glaser October 24, 2018 at 5:38 pm #

      You know, the speeches do seem better and people are getting them done in a more timely way. But, almost everyone has to do a re-write of their outlines. The good thing on that, is they are doing the re-write because otherwise they won’t get credit for the speech. That is way more motivating than doing the re-write for a few more extra points which most of them didn’t do.

  6. Brianne Waychoff October 23, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

    Yes! Looking forward to hearing how this works. I did something similar in my Introduction to Gender and Women’s Studies courses and it feels good. Of course, I will see if it is working when I assess the course as a whole at the end of the semester. I hope that you can share this in a departmental meeting!

    • Hollis Glaser October 24, 2018 at 5:36 pm #

      Thanks, Brianne. So far so good. I’m feeling more relaxed about it anyway. That has to count for something, right?

  7. Chris Vinsonhaler October 24, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

    Even though I teach another subject (English), I see real advantages in replacing evaluative measures with performative measures. I can see how that shift would certainly reduce student anxiety and at the same maximize their agency in decision making. Thank you for sharing.

    • Hollis Glaser October 24, 2018 at 5:35 pm #

      Yes, especially because of all the anxiety there is around public speaking. It definitely seems diminished this semester and they think they can get the grade they want. At least that’s how it appears to me right now.

  8. Ruru October 29, 2018 at 2:50 pm #

    So interesting to read about, Hollis, and glad to hear of the successes so far. I see a similar tension in the use of rubrics in online classes – trying to give detailed guidance to the students but sometimes it can set them up to fail, as you say. Hmm, good food for thought!

    • Hollis October 30, 2018 at 8:43 am #

      Hi Ruru! I miss you! Yes, it’s a real shift and I think it’s a good one. Honestly, their performances are as good if not better. Giving 5 points for eye contact doesn’t seem to motivate them or make them do better. And they still get the same feedback. Emphasizing feedback over points or grades seems to work better. I feel like I am being more of a teacher and less of a police officer.

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